Passenger Peg Relocation ?

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Graham G

Discussion Starter · Jul 31, 2016

This is a follow up to my post in the introductions section.
I have now had the chance to test sit a CTX & despite my short legged concerns,i'm pretty confident the CTX would work for me.
BUT,my major concern is passenger peg height/leg room,i have read as many threads as i can find about altering the rear peg location,but i've been unable to find any pics,or a thread from anyone who has actually improved passenger leg room.
Can anyone point me to a pic or a thread/post about this,or offer any words of wisdom/encouragement

Cheers,Graham.

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Gordon

· #2 · Jul 31, 2016

Graham G said:
This is a follow up to my post in the introductions section.
I have now had the chance to test sit a CTX & despite my short legged concerns,i'm pretty confident the CTX would work for me.
BUT,my major concern is passenger peg height/leg room,i have read as many threads as i can find about altering the rear peg location,but i've been unable to find any pics,or a thread from anyone who has actually improved passenger leg room.
Can anyone point me to a pic or a thread/post about this,or offer any words of wisdom/encouragement
Cheers,Graham.

I like to customize but I haven't tackled this one yet. However I did mention to one rider that he could fit C shaped stirrups in the existing peg mount.
Here's a sight that also sells lowered pegs
http://www.knightdesignllc.com/Products/Motorcycle/About-Foot-Pegs.html
Another CTX rider was asking for a extension on the back side of his front pegs so that he could place his feet midway on the bike. My second suggestion would be to create "long boards" that attach on the front peg mount all the way to the back peg mount. The right configuration would allow the passenger to gain lower pegs.

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nick13

· #3 · Jul 31, 2016

Gonzo knows, Gonzo is smart, be like Gonzo.

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steven111

· #4 · Jul 31, 2016

Gonzo knows, Gonzo is smart, be like Gonzo.

That reminds me of the Star Trek episode where Jordi was held captive by aliens who wanted him to fix their ship... Too funny!

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jfc77320

· #5 · Jul 31, 2016 (Edited)

nick13 said:
Gonzo knows, Gonzo is smart, be like Gonzo.

Yea except it didn't work and he had to remove them. There's just not enough leg room on the CTX to make this work.

Graham G: Kuryakyn and other manufacturers makes adaptors to lower both rider and passenger pegs. You just have to determine which one will suit your personal preference.

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Graham G

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 1, 2016

Thanks for the replies,so it looks like nobody on the Forum has lowered the passenger pegs,or at least dosen't have pics if they have.
Looking at the Bikes,the obvious obstacle is the exhaust pipe & to be honest i like the look of the bike as is,plus i've not seen a modded/aftermarket pipe that appeals to my old fashioned taste.
I'll chew on it.
Once again thanks.
Graham.

JH700CTX

· #7 · Aug 1, 2016 (Edited)

I wasn't going to reply, I figured it would be relatively obvious from sitting on it that the bike is physically not long enough (in the seat region) to accomodate re-assignment. After sitting on it for as long as i have already, i would not ever seriously suggest that anyone attempt a 2 up on it, I know people do it but I wouldn't promote the idea.

I saw some idgit complain about the pillion region (and the slow acceleration while 2-up) on the Africa twin (in youtube) to which I replied "Just because you could fit 30 midgets into a Volkswagen doesn't mean you should" hinting at the fact that the AT wasn't meant to be a 2-up ride.

Graham G

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 1, 2016

JH700CTX said:
I wasn't going to reply, I figured it would be relatively obvious from sitting on it that the bike is physically not long enough (in the seat region) to accomodate re-assignment. After sitting on it for as long as i have already, i would not ever seriously suggest that anyone attempt a 2 up on it, I know people do it but I wouldn't promote the idea.

I saw some idgit complain about the pillion region (and the slow acceleration while 2-up) on the Africa twin (in youtube) to which I replied "Just because you could fit 30 midgets into a Volkswagen doesn't mean you should" hinting at the fact that the AT wasn't meant to be a 2-up ride.

Hi,JH700,I was talking about the Passenger Pegs needing relocating(lower & possibly forward)not the seat,which would definately need changing(Corbin Low?),with your reply do you mean the Seat is not physically large enough for 2 people?,or the Bike is not suitable for 2 up use?,or both,
i'll just say i haven't ridden a CTX,to assess it's power/handling capability,so any input/opinions you have,would be welcome.
Cheers,Graham.

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JH700CTX

· #9 · Aug 1, 2016 (Edited)

Graham G said:
Hi,JH700,I was talking about the Passenger Pegs needing relocating(lower & possibly forward)not the seat,which would definately need changing(Corbin Low?),with your reply do you mean the Seat is not physically large enough for 2 people?,or the Bike is not suitable for 2 up use?,or both,
i'll just say i haven't ridden a CTX,to assess it's power/handling capability,so any input/opinions you have,would be welcome.
Cheers,Graham.

I was meaning that the length of the body of the bike from the front of the seat to the back is rather short. I'm a big guy, and I like to be able to move around on the seat during a ride, particularly if I ride long distances (sore butt is unavoidable). I'll be riding 540+ miles this coming weekend. With me sitting on it by myself thats about half the seat already gone, now with luggage on the pillion for longer rides I don't have much room left to move back. So with two people on there, not only is the seat cramped but now you and your passenger don't really have much of any place to move your legs around (thus peg re-assignment not practical).

It is a super commuter bike as an all a-rounder, but it is in this guys opinion a solo bike (solo plus luggage). I ride typically around 130 miles in a day as my inter-county commute. I am eager to get a larger bike with more fuel capacity in the near future. I like the weight class that it's in, and there tour capable bikes of similar weight but alot more power (it is needed!) and longer range between refuels. If you're traveling as much as I am 2 up or not, you should not be stopping every 150 miles for refuling, you should be stopping no less than every 250 for fuel. If you do because you want to stretch thats a different matter but this bike's biggest flaw is it's lack of fuel capacity. Adding more fuel capacity would not lower it's fuel efficiency either, Honda is just being a turd about it.

Is that making any sense @Graham G?

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jfc77320

· #10 · Aug 1, 2016

Graham G said:
Hi,JH700,I was talking about the Passenger Pegs needing relocating(lower & possibly forward)not the seat,which would definately need changing(Corbin Low?),with your reply do you mean the Seat is not physically large enough for 2 people?,or the Bike is not suitable for 2 up use?,or both,
i'll just say i haven't ridden a CTX,to assess it's power/handling capability,so any input/opinions you have,would be welcome.
Cheers,Graham.

The CTX is perfectly capable of handling a rider and passenger. I and many other members here on the forum do it all the time. There's plenty of power and torque. The flat power band actually makes it much easier riding 2 up than on a heavier 750 Shadow or any of the other cruisers in this class.

A few members, and I stress only a few, are of the opinion that if the CTX cant do 150mph in 4 seconds or less it cant possibly be good at much of anything, let alone riding 2. Its a bogus argument made by newbies with little or no experience with other motorcycles.

The CTX is designed from the ground up to be a general purpose motorcycle built on the cruiser platform. Its the only one of its kind in production and unique in its capabilities. Its also why it has a passenger seat as standard unlike the other recent releases. It does a fine job with basic comfort for passengers up to 5'6. Taller passengers find the passenger pegs too short for extended riding since they tend to sit more on their tail bone with longer legs. This can be alleviated by increasing the passenger seat height with firmer padding and/or lowering the pegs 1-2 inches with aftermarket passenger peg accessories.

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jfc77320

· #11 · Aug 1, 2016

JH700CTX said:
I am eager to get a larger bike with more fuel capacity in the near future. I like the weight class that it's in, and there tour capable bikes of similar weight but alot more power (it is needed!) and longer range between refuels. If you're traveling as much as I am 2 up or not, you should not be stopping every 150 miles for refuling, you should be stopping no less than every 250 for fuel. If you do because you want to stretch thats a different matter but this bike's biggest flaw is it's lack of fuel capacity. Adding more fuel capacity would not lower it's fuel efficiency either, Honda is just being a turd about it.

Just out of curiosity, what magical bike have you found that meets all those requirements. I'm interested in finding one too.

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Graham G

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 1, 2016

JH700,after reading your reply,i see where you're coming from & if i had the same criteria for my riding needs i would possibly agree,but i'm not sure where you find a bike in the cruiser height/style,that would offer more without a big increase in both weight & purchase price,like maybe a Rocket III

However my criteria is much less demanding(except for my Passenger

)
Firstly i'm only 5'9" with 29'inseam & 166 lbs,my wifes 5'3" same inseam about 130lbs

)
We,only ride in the USA(Tn) on Vacation from England,for about 1 month a year,& we average about 200 miles every day,taking our time on back roads,not going much above the speed limit & stopping whenever we want,sometimes only a few miles between stops,never more than 100 miles,so fuel capacity is not a problem.
We're getting into the old age bracket(specially in Motor Cycle terms)i'm 71 in a few days,my wife is a bit older & i want a lighter easier to handle bike,with my feet planted on the floor when we stop,(which requirement rules out a massive amount of similar weight bikes).
I've looked at a lot of Bikes in the last couple of years,but the CTX is looking like a good bet,now i know it exists(which it dosen't in England).
I'm going to ride an integra at our local dealer(which is pretty much the same running gear)& if that goes well i'll be trading for a CTX,i've already set up a deal long distance!
If we decide on the CTX the following is what i think we need to do to make it work for us.

CTX DCT Faired,with the following:
a:Have to lower the passenger pegs in some way,even if it meant altering/removing the Muffler,which i don't really want to do,but needs must(thanks JFC for the Kuryakin info).

b:Corbin Seat,Low/Close,i'm a bit confused with the description from their website they seem to call it both?,but it gives increased rear seating area & looks like it pushes the rider a bit further forward & only slightly higher,if i'm reading it correctly.

c:Highest possible Passenger Back Rest & rack?,to carry our Tail Bag.
Not much really,when i write the list down

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Sorry for rambling on,one of the perks of being old & retired is more time on your hands,to enjoy yourself

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nick13

· #13 · Aug 1, 2016

If I was doing peg extension, I'd probably go this route, haven't tried it yet though.

First, you will need KU8818 adopters, they go for rear pegs:

Then any combination of those, depends whether you like them folding or not. Don't know if they come in black though :

Then you need KU7613 Kinetic Mini Boards w/o Male Mount or KU7612 With Male Mount, depending what configuration of the extenders above you decided to go with.

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jfc77320

· #14 · Aug 1, 2016

Graham G said:
JH700,after reading your reply,i see where you're coming from & if i had the same criteria for my riding needs i would possibly agree,but i'm not sure where you find a bike in the cruiser height/style,that would offer more without a big increase in both weight & purchase price,like maybe a Rocket III

However my criteria is much less demanding(except for my Passenger)
Firstly i'm only 5'9" with 29'inseam & 166 lbs,my wifes 5'3" same inseam about 130lbs)
We,only ride in the USA(Tn) on Vacation from England,for about 1 month a year,& we average about 200 miles every day,taking our time on back roads,not going much above the speed limit & stopping whenever we want,sometimes only a few miles between stops,never more than 100 miles,so fuel capacity is not a problem.
We're getting into the old age bracket(specially in Motor Cycle terms)i'm 71 in a few days,my wife is a bit older & i want a lighter easier to handle bike,with my feet planted on the floor when we stop,(which requirement rules out a massive amount of similar weight bikes).
I've looked at a lot of Bikes in the last couple of years,but the CTX is looking like a good bet,now i know it exists(which it dosen't in England).
I'm going to ride an integra at our local dealer(which is pretty much the same running gear)& if that goes well i'll be trading for a CTX,i've already set up a deal long distance!
If we decide on the CTX the following is what i think we need to do to make it work for us.

CTX DCT Faired,with the following:
a:Have to lower the passenger pegs in some way,even if it meant altering/removing the Muffler,which i don't really want to do,but needs must(thanks JFC for the Kuryakin info).

b:Corbin Seat,Low/Close,i'm a bit confused with the description from their website they seem to call it both?,but it gives increased rear seating area & looks like it pushes the rider a bit further forward & only slightly higher,if i'm reading it correctly.

c:Highest possible Passenger Back Rest & rack?,to carry our Tail Bag.
Not much really,when i write the list down.
Sorry for rambling on,one of the perks of being old & retired is more time on your hands,to enjoy yourself

If your wife is only 5'3 with a 29" inseam, there shouldn't be any reason to move the rear passenger pegs. I would highly recommend she sit on it first and the determine if you need to move them. Adding the Corbin low profile seat will raise both of you up about an inch above the OEM seat. If you do plan to go this route, you might want to look at adding a rear box with backrest and the OEM rear rack/backrest brackets.

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Graham G

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 1, 2016

Thanks,Nick 13,yes a combination of those would do it.
jfc,we did sit on one,but she felt the pegs where too high,but the Corbin seat might well take care of it.
We actually sat on the bike at the Dealer where we negotiated a trade deal with my bike,but i couldn't ride their Demo.because they insist on a US address on the customers Driving Licence,which i don't have.

JH700CTX

· #16 · Aug 2, 2016

@Graham G you could just DiY an extension or something sort that lowers the back pegs if thats all you want. Cut and drill/weld some metal and put new pegs on. Changing out the muffler to a shorty would definitely open up the back too.

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jfc77320

· #17 · Aug 2, 2016

I wouldn't recommend installing a shorty exhaust if you plan to carry a passenger. The problem with this setup is that exhaust fumes tend to rise up into the passenger area when stopped and the right rear peg will receive the full brunt of exhaust heat and fumes when riding at speed. The passenger will also receive the full brunt of loud noise emanating from the pipe at levels in the 119 db range. This makes for a miserable ride and not one conducive to keeping your passenger on the bike for long.

Graham G

Discussion Starter · #18 · Aug 2, 2016

JH700CTX said:
@Graham G you could just DiY an extension or something sort that lowers the back pegs if thats all you want. Cut and drill/weld some metal and put new pegs on. Changing out the muffler to a shorty would definitely open up the back too.

JHC700,DIY,is not a realistic option because of the limited time i have with the Bike,it has to be something plug & play.
If the Bike was outside in my Garage no problem,i do have the skills from a former life

jfc77320 said:
I wouldn't recommend installing a shorty exhaust if you plan to carry a passenger. The problem with this setup is that exhaust fumes tend to rise up into the passenger area when stopped and the right rear peg will receive the full brunt of exhaust heat and fumes when riding at speed. The passenger will also receive the full brunt of loud noise emanating from the pipe at levels in the 119 db range. This makes for a miserable ride and not one conducive to keeping your passenger on the bike for long.

JFC,i have no experience with short mufflers,would this problem still be true of a Factory fitted under chassis muffler,such as the Vulcan S or the Honda 650F ?

Once again i appreciate the comments/help.
Graham.

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GonzoB

· #19 · Aug 2, 2016

I've tried the Kuryakyn splined adapters with the mini boards on the rear pegs. They are the ones I later used on my mid controls (see above). They work OK if you don't want the pegs to fold. The hinge points for the rear pegs are on such a laid-back angle, that folding the boards doesn't work. I tried using them in the fixed position, but when I had my feet on the ground my calves hit on them often enough to annoy me. I took them off.

And thanks for the flowers. It's just a pity the mid controls didn't work - I put in a lot of effort!

Gonzo

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Graham G

Discussion Starter · #20 · Aug 2, 2016

Hey,Gonzo,thanks for the info,did you use the floorboards with the adapter in the same position as the footpegs,i.e.,without any extenders/adjusters,such as mentioned by Nick13,in a previous post?
Thanks,Graham.

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