Thank you for the info appreciate it. 👍The Givi rear rack is the most stable, there are multiple connection points and its a piece of steel that goes to the back. The OEM and SHAD connects via the back part of the frame which doesnt seem as stable to me. For reference Ive had the Givi rear for over two years and I tend o overload my top case and its still there. Pillion also tends to lean on it and its been stable.