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Oouuch! I'm reminded of: (believe it or not), a canyon road between "giants" Riverside & San Bernardino in socal, which is partially inhabited by a huge herd of wild mules. This road is also a major commuter short cut for many. Sadly, due to traffic volumes & speed, I've seen a number of them road killed, wishing that could have been avoided.:sick:
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I am really glad to see this "top Tier" list.
Thanks, Steve.
I have always filled up my Jag at Chevron (with Techron, Premium) and for my bike I go to an Exxon station.
So maybe the Top Tier detergent gas is more responsible for my experience, instead of the Premium designation.
The Jaguar manual does indeed specify Premium. And the Chevron with Techron is all I have ever put in it. It is a 2007 and runs like a Top!
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Run regular. Also, there is a difference in the amount of detergents in the gasoline. The "good" gasoline is called "Top Tier" and you should only buy gasoline there. It does make a difference.


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Interesting. I never knew about this and found that the brand I use most is not on the Top Tier list. I will have to look at that and adjust my habits.
 

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Hi all, from B.C.
Just picked up a 2014 CTX700 and I'm hearing different things about what fuel to use . Some say supreme and some say just regular is fine. Thoughts?
Congrats on the new wheels!
I have a 2014. Actually bought it new that year. I have always put regular gas in it and runs fine with no issues. The Honda dealership I bought it from concurred that regular gas is just fine.
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Hi all, from B.C.
Just picked up a 2014 CTX700 and I'm hearing different things about what fuel to use . Some say supreme and some say just regular is fine. Thoughts?
I have the same bike with 12,996 miles on regular 87 octane. Don’t waste your money. The manual calls for 87 and if it doesn’t ping or backfire, that’s all you need.
 

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I use regular at the pumps through out the riding season and put in ethanol free gas toward the end of the riding season. I also add some stabilizer on my last fill up before storing for winter.
(Side Note: I use ethanol free in my yard equipment after changing cracked fuel lines way too often. Since the switch I have not had an issue.)
 

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Interesting. I never knew about this and found that the brand I use most is not on the Top Tier list. I will have to look at that and adjust my habits.
Yes, it's always best to use Top Tier whenever possible. Grocery store brands used occasionally will not cause it to immediately break down. The difference is in the added "detergents"

THE INTERWEBS" said:
TOP TIER™ Detergent Gasoline
TOP TIER™ Detergent Gasoline is the premium standard established by engine manufacturers for gasoline performance, brought about by the recognition that the current EPA minimum detergent requirements are not extensive enough to ensure robust engine cleanliness and top performance. TOP TIER™ Detergent Gasoline reduces engine deposits and in-use emissions, while improving engine performance and driver satisfaction. Eight of the world’s top automakers (BMW, General Motors, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen, Mercedes-Benz and Audi) recognize the need to raise the bar on minimum detergent requirements for the optimal engine performance.
Many times, the SAME TRUCK will deliver the SAME GAS to different branded gas stations. The only difference would be in the chemical pack that the DRIVER ADDS to the delivery. The differences come in the brand’s additives that are injected as the product is loaded.

As far as Premium, it's really (generally) only "REQUIRED" for high performance / high compression engines. Premium gasoline is LESS LIKEY to detonate. Generally, turbo equipped vehicles will require premium, because they compress the fuel making detonation more likely. You should ALWAYS burn premium in vehicles that require it.

But there is another group which may add to the confusion. Those would be "Premium RECOMMENDED" vehicles. Almost every vehicle these days is equipped with a "knock sensor". If your engine begins to detonate the fuel, the ECU will immediately adjust timing and other factors to compensate. No harm, no foul. This will happen MORE OFTEN using regular 87 octane gasoline. So, while your "premium recommended" vehicle will run just fine on "regular", it may run better, more efficiently on 89 or 91 octane fuel because it is DESIGNED to use higher octane.

Then there are vehicles that it just doesn't matter. These vehicles are DESIGNED to use 87 octane. Most motorcycle engines DO NOT HAVE knock sensors and are designed to use 87. If your 87 engine is knocking, a higher octane fuel may reduce it, but it actually points to a problem. If your engine is not knocking, higher octane fuel will do absolutely no good, and you will not even get better gas mileage. But it might make you FEEL better. :D

For most 2 wheeled enthusiasts, Top Tier 87 will give you the best performance and excellent protection. If you hear knocking, get it serviced immediately.

PS: If, like me, you insist on getting premium, consider a mid-grade. It's usually 20 cents a gallon cheaper and some (usually older) stations do not even have 3 separate underground tanks meaning you can get 91 octane for the price of 89. 89 means it's "at least" 89. ;)

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Yes, it's always best to use Top Tier whenever possible. Grocery store brands used occasionally will not cause it to immediately break down. The difference is in the added "detergents"



Many times, the SAME TRUCK will deliver the SAME GAS to different branded gas stations. The only difference would be in the chemical pack that the DRIVER ADDS to the delivery. The differences come in the brand’s additives that are injected as the product is loaded.

As far as Premium, it's really (generally) only "REQUIRED" for high performance / high compression engines. Premium gasoline is LESS LIKEY to detonate. Generally, turbo equipped vehicles will require premium, because they compress the fuel making detonation more likely. You should ALWAYS burn premium in vehicles that require it.

But there is another group which may add to the confusion. Those would be "Premium RECOMMENDED" vehicles. Almost every vehicle these days is equipped with a "knock sensor". If your engine begins to detonate the fuel, the ECU will immediately adjust timing and other factors to compensate. No harm, no foul. This will happen MORE OFTEN using regular 87 octane gasoline. So, while your "premium recommended" vehicle will run just fine on "regular", it may run better, more efficiently on 89 or 91 octane fuel because it is DESIGNED to use higher octane.

Then there are vehicles that it just doesn't matter. These vehicles are DESIGNED to use 87 octane. Most motorcycle engines DO NOT HAVE knock sensors and are designed to use 87. If your 87 engine is knocking, a higher octane fuel may reduce it, but it actually points to a problem. If your engine is not knocking, higher octane fuel will do absolutely no good, and you will not even get better gas mileage. But it might make you FEEL better. :D

For most 2 wheeled enthusiasts, Top Tier 87 will give you the best performance and excellent protection. If you hear knocking, get it serviced immediately.

PS: If, like me, you insist on getting premium, consider a mid-grade. It's usually 20 cents a gallon cheaper and some (usually older) stations do not even have 3 separate underground tanks meaning you can get 91 octane for the price of 89. 89 means it's "at least" 89. ;)

JMHO
So, The Dude does not abide ethanol. :cool:
 

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Hi all, from B.C.
Just picked up a 2014 CTX700 and I'm hearing different things about what fuel to use . Some say supreme and some say just regular is fine. Thoughts?
Welcome, Sunflower.

I have a 2014 CTX700 DCT in [the fastest color] red. 21,000 perfect miles. The problem is not what grade of gasoline to use (I always get the lowest/cheapest). The real problem is not running out of gasoline! Normally I get 65 miles per gallon, but your 3.1 Gallon tank will barely last 150 miles if you're fighting a headwind at 75 mph. Don't ask how I know.

I strongly recommend that you get a 1-gallon auxiliary fuel tank and never leave home without it.
Mine is the Rotopax with the Rotopax mount. It sits flat atop my back trunk without leaking.
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Welcome, Sunflower.

I have a 2014 CTX700 DCT in [the fastest color] red. 21,000 perfect miles. The problem is not what grade of gasoline to use (I always get the lowest/cheapest). The real problem is not running out of gasoline! Normally I get 65 miles per gallon, but your 3.1 Gallon tank will barely last 150 miles if you're fighting a headwind at 75 mph. Don't ask how I know.

I strongly recommend that you get a 1-gallon auxiliary fuel tank and never leave home without it.
Mine is the Rotopax with the Rotopax mount. It sits flat atop my back trunk without leaking.
Ahem, I was told that Silver was MUCH faster than red and also that it is far more attractive.😢

I like your bags Moto. How are they attached? Do you have a build page?

I have the OEM hard saddle boxes, but I do not care for them. Whoever thought side loading was a good idea probably doesn't really understand gravity. JMHO. I have the back rest, but no luggage rack so I just ordered that so I can get a proper top case.
 

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Ahem, I was told that Silver was MUCH faster than red and also that it is far more attractive.😢

I like your bags Moto. How are they attached? Do you have a build page?

I have the OEM hard saddle boxes, but I do not care for them. Whoever thought side loading was a good idea probably doesn't really understand gravity. JMHO. I have the back rest, but no luggage rack so I just ordered that so I can get a proper top case.
The bags pictured are $80 from Amazon (where else?). They just throw over the saddle on my 2014 CTX700 DCT. Had to remove the grab rails (no big deal) to make them work.
Each bag is held to the other by lacing up some crappy sort of rope like a shoelace . I used a couple of Zip-Ties to really secure them to each other. A final bungee cord (and the back trunk) keeps them from blowing off the back. Well worth a try. I like mine.

Here's the link:
Amazon $80 Saddle Bags
 
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