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Hi folks, am getting a good deal on : Bates GX-4 GTX Boots.
Wondering if this gives adequate protection while reading yet give
me some leeway to use the boots elsewhere. I just don't feel like
spending motorcycle specific shoes that are just too heavy or something
to be used generally?

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20 Years in the Army I learned Bates is a good quality name in boots.

Old commercial used to say "Pay me now, or pay me later"
Racers say a $500 boot you never use is better than a possible $10,000 ankle replacement that never works right.

My co-worker wears $250 racing boots because he also races more than he commutes to work, and his commute is mostly interstate at about 60+ MPH. VERY light, and laterally strong, does one job extremely well. He also brings in work shoes to change into, then puts to riding boots back on to go home.

I have steel toed work boots that look fairly normal so I can wear them all day. I got them for half off $100. Took a little time to get used to shifting, and some motorcycles I've test-ridden would need shifter and brake pedal lifted die to the thickness of the soles.

Mine will last ten years, but if I see a good deal on riding boots, I'll cut my losses and get something more comfortable and suited to the task of riding.

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"Wondering if this gives adequate protection while reading yet give..."
Well, unless your are reading a Terminator novel, anything should give you the protection needed. (Sorry, just had to tease you).
I wear Bates high top boots that have a zipper up the side (helps with my high instep). Nice thing for me, they come in a 13 extra wide and when they go on sale at the local Big 5 they are like $30. I am happy with them and think they offer OK protection and they have a low heel and great tread which helps with all the gravel on streets and parking lots when you put your foot down when stopped. I have gone on short hikes at the end of roads we rode on and they are fine for that too. I agree, the best boots are the ones that you will wear on EVERY ride.
 

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I wear the bates tactical boots, a bit higher ankle, with the steel toe. Really comfortable, although a tad heavy. Gives me piece of mind.
 
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check : webbikeworld.com for ratings on MC gear..........check prices from motorcyclegear.com =aka= newenough.com. always has great deals on last years MC "stuff". Now they'll be selling 2019 gear on close out deals. They buy up all the new, left over stock, when the next model year comes out, it's always new, never worn. Great customer service, very, very helpful.
 

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I broke my ankle in a slow speed drop, wearing low top motorcycle boots.
If you had asked me rite after the break if I thought $500 would have been too much to spend to prevent the break I would have no way
I ended up buying the Sidi Rex boots

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NOTHING else for me than full size street, motorcycle specific boots. No, not bates, or HD, or work boots. Actual motorcycle boots with SHIN protection. Ankle protection goes without saying on those.
 

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I broke my ankle in a slow speed drop, wearing low top motorcycle boots.
If you had asked me rite after the break if I thought $500 would have been too much to spend to prevent the break I would have no way
I ended up buying the Sidi Rex boots

Dress for Sliding not for Riding
Dress for Sliding not for Riding
Dress for Sliding not for Riding
Similar story, fell and broke my leg above the ankle, they put a plate on to hold everything together, 18k.

I now wear Sidi adventurer boots, boots for sliding not riding
 

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Hi folks, am getting a good deal on : Bates GX-4 GTX Boots.
Wondering if this gives adequate protection while reading yet give
me some leeway to use the boots elsewhere. I just don't feel like
spending motorcycle specific shoes that are just too heavy or something
to be used generally?

TIA!..
Thanks for bringing the subject up again at the right time!

I pulled the trigger on the $70 Bates Adrenaline, marked down for Christmas, then back to $200. Clearly on par with mid range racing boots I see for $180 to $250.
https://www.batesfootwear.com/US/en/adrenaline/20367M.html?dwvar_20367M_color=E08800#recid=854607656
(I actually used Amazon for faster shipping and some rewards points on the same price. They sent a no-hassle return label right in the box! Glad I won't be using it, but nice touch.)

These are nothing like my Army combat boots but clearly Bates quality material and workmanship. Both this and the Phaser (less leather, $10 lower price for Christmas) are designed specifically for motorcycles. Good molecular special multi-impact (blah, blah, ... ) ankle protection, anki-skid soles, and several other safety and comfort features.
While looking at alternatives, I found an HD boot so much like the Bates Phaser I'm tempted to say they paid Bates to put an HD name on it.

The Adrenaline is the first MC boot I've worn. It felt a little odd walking, but about what I was expecting except very comfortable. Lasted all day at work with no problem. Pretty breathable for a waterproof full leather design. I wasn't sure if I should expect to sweat, but it didn't happen, so that's good.
Now when I got on the bike, I was more pleased with the fit and usability. Shifting is easier than the combat boots or the high-top steel toe shoes by far. The grip pattern is better than it looks in the website picture too.

I hear and agree safety is worth more than a few hundred $$. If I go racing I'll definitely invest a few hundred in calf length high tech, and more in a "onesie" suit. For now my style of riding shouldn't cause any high speed crashes, and low speed issues really boil down to things like planting feet on wet leaves or painted lines. If I get absent minded enough to go down at that speed these should protect me pretty good.

If anyone is on the fence about it and not wanting to spend a lot, I'd jump into one of these while the price is right.
 

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"Breathable Waterproof GORE-TEX® membrane with moisture wicking lining to Keep Your Feet Cool and Dry"
Just looks and sounds like it gives away at the ankle,

Can you check your good source for a different Bates model with ankle protection and anti-slip soles for motorcycle riding?
https://www.batesfootwear.com/US/en/phaser/20370M.html?dwvar_20370M_color=E08812#cgid=powersports&start=1

Thanks to you for bringing it up, these are on sale and in my price range, I may be stepping up now!
Question??? How can these boots prevent a broken ankle?? I believe in good equipment and safety but they don't seem that strong around the ankles.
 

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Question??? How can these boots prevent a broken ankle?? I believe in good equipment and safety but they don't seem that strong around the ankles.
From my military days, boots displace certain forces across a broader area reducing the likelihood of a break or sprain. It seems to make sense. I hope that I am answering the question.
 

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Broken ankle is a very common motorcycle injury.
your feet are down there and these bikes are heavy.
pay now for some armored motorcycle boots with crush proof foot and heal pocket. shin armor, and the best lateral ankle support you can find.
$300 to $500.
Or
If you are unlucky pay later with an ambulance ride, emergency room visit, orthopedic surgeon, and 3 months off work.

Sounds like an easy choice to me.
 

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Question??? How can these boots prevent a broken ankle?? I believe in good equipment and safety but they don't seem that strong around the ankles.
From my military days, boots displace certain forces across a broader area reducing the likelihood of a break or sprain. It seems to make sense. I hope that I am answering the question.
True, if you land straight into the corner of a wall and a road at 70 MPH something has to give and it won't be the wall.

Also true, good quality leather can prevent SOME broken ankles by spreading out the forces and using larger leg bones to supplement foot and ankle structures. Properly placed impact padding can protect the most tender spots to a degree.
The ones I picked make my whole foot much less mobile laterally and also a little more stiff longitudinally. The tapered shape at the toes and ankles give less leverage to edge forces to allow rolling through a step off, and give more clearance between the peg and shift lever for easier up-shifts. The label claims "molecular structure" of the padding alters during impact to decrease chance of injury, and that it returns to be effective again during "multiple impacts"
They make my foot, ankle and lower leg feel stronger than my previous boots, but I plan to avoid testing those claims.

You do everything on the road you can to avoid a crash, and when in a crash, slow down before impact and roll or slide to spread out the impact of the crash. You hope the end is no crash, or light enough to do minimal damage.
Good boots like the these will double or triple the amount of force before a break occurs compared to a normal hiking boot, they can't stop all bone breaks.

Great calf length boots with composite sliders and reinforced hinges can prevent breaks at four to six times the force of a normal hiking boot, and also prevent some leg bone breaks, but they can't stop all bone breaks.
On a track, with proper sliding techniques and ground around the corners designed to absorb energy and slow riders down before hitting barriers professional riders with those on can go down at over 100 MPH and slide to safely walk away with only mild bruising and heat rashes. You won't find the same help designed into every curve and merge on a public roads.

You have to decide what risk you're willing to accept, and I've always tried to minimize my risk with good avoidance techniques and strong cheap work boots. Now I finally decided to step up to a boot that leaves a lot less risk than I used to accept. Of course I'll still use good techniques as well, and spend more on better boots if I start racing.
 

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Wow, that was way too long, sorry. Bottom line, I don't wear boots, helmet, jacket, and gloves to stop all breaks and then ride like I'm in a shell.

I've had people flat out run a red light right in front of me, and as planned before they did it, I stopped or swerved around them.

I understand some day I might be forced to swerve or stop more than I'm able and I hope ATG would help with whatever forces I can't mitigate before the fall.

As someone else said, you have to get the best gear you will wear, because the only way you will have any help at all is if you wear it All The Time.

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From my military days, boots displace certain forces across a broader area reducing the likelihood of a break or sprain. It seems to make sense. I hope that I am answering the question.
Yes...thanks for your reply..now it makes sense to me now....I think I'll go for the Bates Women's Tahoe Motorcycle boot...thanks for your help
 
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