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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-19-2019, 03:59 PM Thread Starter
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Fuel pump has shaken loose – dangerous?

Hi all! A couple of days ago my bike tipped over. Wasn’t even a terribly hard tip over. But today when I went to gas it up, I suddenly saw some kind of plastic housing sitting in the tank and I’ve never seen it before! My research suggests that my fuel pump has shaken loose from where ever it was mounted in the tank originally! I just rode about 60 miles and all is OK, but I’m wondering if it is dangerous for me to do some technical riding which includes leading the bike way over and scraping in the pegs. Also, has anyone had this repaired and what was the cost? I hope that I can just re-secure the fuel pump into the tank with the replacement bracket of some sort. But it would really stink to have to pay someone to pull the tank off to fix it!

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Riding vertical or leaning makes no difference, g-force keeps it relatively stable vertically(you should already know this). If you are certain something broke, get it fixed or risk being stranded~

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If you can get the plastic off all you have to do is unplug the wiring take nuts off that hold the fuel pump in and slide it out most likely it wasn't clipped into place good. Good luck. I would want it fixed before I did any hard riding

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@Rebel13 and @Texas Roadrunner, thank you for the replies! I was in a place with little to no cell phone signal so finally getting back to this. Here's the skinny: The day AFTER I dropped my bike in the driveway, I went to get gas. I had only done a couple of short trips to the gym (2.4 miles each way).

I had just ridden about 10 to 15 miles with a friend heading to the N GA mountains when we pulled over to gas up. When looking down into my tank, all of a sudden I saw a white plastic-looking housing that I had NEVER NOTICED BEFORE! I thought it impossible that I never noticed it before, in the 5 years I have had Scarlett!

I assumed that with the drop, I must have shaken something loose. Of course I was worried about it, but I was on my way to a 3-day N GA vacation and wasn't about to lose my non-refundable monetary investment! So I crossed my fingers, hoping for the best, and carefully rode on. When I got to the rustic resort with no cell phone signal, but with wifi, I did some gas tank schematic searches and discovered that the fuel pump is in the tank.

Since I never noticed/saw it before in my tank, I assumed I must have shaken it loose and it moved around. Maybe mounted via a clamp in the tank, and maybe a broke the clamp that held it in its proper position and it perhaps moved to where I could see it?

I met up with a very experienced motorcycle friend (has wrenched on bikes) and together we tipped Scarlett way over to the one side and shook her to see if the housing that I could see in my tank would move. It didn't budge!

So perhaps when I stopped at the "new" gas station, the light was just right for me to see the fuel pump for the first time? I'm always gassing up under overhangs where the tank is completely in shade.

I am posting a photo of what I see. Maybe others can tell me if they also see the same thing on their (non-dropped?) bikes or can confirm that it is a component that belongs exactly where I see it, and that I just NOTICED it for the first time due to completely different lighting. Based on the schematics I was able to find, it looks like the fuel pump. But the schematics I found don't show WHERE the fuel pump actually IS in the tank - it shows the fuel pump assembly broken out in the diagram, off to the side of the tank. Not freaking helpful! And I don't own the repair manual.
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@Rebel13 and @Texas Roadrunner, thank you for the replies! I was in a place with little to no cell phone signal so finally getting back to this. Here's the skinny: The day AFTER I dropped my bike in the driveway, I went to get gas. I had only done a couple of short trips to the gym (2.4 miles each way).

I had just ridden about 10 to 15 miles with a friend heading to the N GA mountains when we pulled over to gas up. When looking down into my tank, all of a sudden I saw a white plastic-looking housing that I had NEVER NOTICED BEFORE! I thought it impossible that I never noticed it before, in the 5 years I have had Scarlett!

I assumed that with the drop, I must have shaken something loose. Of course I was worried about it, but I was on my way to a 3-day N GA vacation and wasn't about to lose my non-refundable monetary investment! So I crossed my fingers, hoping for the best, and carefully rode on. When I got to the rustic resort with no cell phone signal, but with wifi, I did some gas tank schematic searches and discovered that the fuel pump is in the tank.

Since I never noticed/saw it before in my tank, I assumed I must have shaken it loose and it moved around. Maybe mounted via a clamp in the tank, and maybe a broke the clamp that held it in its proper position and it perhaps moved to where I could see it?

I met up with a very experienced motorcycle friend (has wrenched on bikes) and together we tipped Scarlett way over to the one side and shook her to see if the housing that I could see in my tank would move. It didn't budge!

So perhaps when I stopped at the "new" gas station, the light was just right for me to see the fuel pump for the first time? I'm always gassing up under overhangs where the tank is completely in shade.

I am posting a photo of what I see. Maybe others can tell me if they also see the same thing on their (non-dropped?) bikes or can confirm that it is a component that belongs exactly where I see it, and that I just NOTICED it for the first time due to completely different lighting. Based on the schematics I was able to find, it looks like the fuel pump. But the schematics I found don't show WHERE the fuel pump actually IS in the tank - it shows the fuel pump assembly broken out in the diagram, off to the side of the tank. Not freaking helpful! And I don't own the repair manual.
Yeah, in my never dropped CTX trike, I have a white thing in the tank that appears to be mounted on the bottom, whereas yours seems to be nearer the top. It is a white thing I never noticed before (because, I never looked for it). But my tank is nearly empty right now, so it is easier to see. Hope that helps.
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HI @bob witte, I wonder if I just never noticed it before? It is at the bottom of the tank - my tank was pretty empty. It is just about straight down when I look down into my tank when fueling it. If others can also see their fuel pump, maybe its just me - maybe I just never noticed it before!

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HI @bob witte, I wonder if I just never noticed it before? It is at the bottom of the tank - my tank was pretty empty. It is just about straight down when I look down into my tank when fueling it. If others can also see their fuel pump, maybe its just me - maybe I just never noticed it before!
That's okay, I've had my CTX since Dec 2015 and I never noticed it until you asked!
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HI @bob witte, I wonder if I just never noticed it before? It is at the bottom of the tank - my tank was pretty empty. It is just about straight down when I look down into my tank when fueling it. If others can also see their fuel pump, maybe its just me - maybe I just never noticed it before!
Attached are 12 pick’s of the fuel pump. It stands up pretty high in the tank and looks like your looking at the top of the pump. https://picclick.com/14-16-Honda-Ctx...443275164.html. Mine looks the same, the pump is installed slightly offset of the fill hole and appears to be secured pretty well with 6 threaded studs. https://www.ebay.com/i/163664814963?chn=ps . The top of the pump measures approximately 3 1/4 inches to the top of the front bar inside my tank.
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@dgall, thank you so much for the pics and detailed description. I feel pretty darn confident now that I simply never noticed the fuel pump before (duh!) and since it was something a "newly" noticed and had dropped the bike in the driveway the day before, I thought I'd shaken it loose.

You are all so awesome! BTW - my job requirements have kept me super busy, I have had more travel than usual, and hence I am online less for personal stuff like the CTX700 forum.

But bonus, I did teach my "man friend" how to ride on my CTX, until he wanted to get out of 2nd gear, then he got his own bike. He is looking to upgrade to a used CTX for his next bike, so I hope someone here sells one not too far away from Atlanta, GA, because the bike is top notch, as are the riders!

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Interesting, yours came loose and mine melted just recently

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