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post #31 of 40 (permalink) Old 04-15-2014, 02:58 PM
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I like the looks of the CTX1300 and believe it will sell well in the USA, but it's not for me. It's overweight and too long for it's 1300cc displacement. Honda needs to make a third CTX available in the 800-1000cc range using the low center of gravity parallel twin design. Offer it with manual and ABS or DCT with ABS. The DCT and low CG , along with the great low and mid range torque and excellent throttle response in low speed maneuvers really sets these bikes apart from the rest of the herd. If all Honda dealers promoted these bikes by offering free demo rides they would have to double production to meet demand. Most folks I know (experienced riders) wouldn't even consider one of these bikes, but if they rode one it would change there perceptions of what it really is and what it can do!

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I know I've sold two of them and I'm not a dealer. Both owners went down and bought the DCT Fairing model the next day after taking a ride on my bike. I don't normally let others ride my bike but I've known both for years and both are long term experienced riders with larger bikes. Honda world press release says DCT's make up almost 40% of CTX sales and 38% of NC700 sales. I'd say that sounds pretty promising.
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I definitely pushed my wife toward the manual because I assumed the DCT would not fair well in the re-sale department if she decided it was not for her. Honda hit the right market for the CTX700. I see a lot of riders coming from a scooter with auto so it is a natural transition. The Yamaha FJR1300AE, Automatic accounts for a very small number of FJR's.

Knowing what I do now I would have gone for the DCT for her, ABS is just more icing. I would possibly opt for the extended warranty but the NC700 seems to be doing fine.
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I like the looks of the CTX1300 and believe it will sell well in the USA, but it's not for me. It's overweight and too long for it's 1300cc displacement. Honda needs to make a third CTX available in the 800-1000cc range using the low center of gravity parallel twin design. Offer it with manual and ABS or DCT with ABS. The DCT and low CG , along with the great low and mid range torque and excellent throttle response in low speed maneuvers really sets these bikes apart from the rest of the herd. If all Honda dealers promoted these bikes...

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Agree completely... I was actually interested in the bigger CTX until I saw the weight and specs, and that all it had in common with the 700 was looks. All they did was re-tune their usual 1300 engine and slap a new bod on it. As far as dealers promoting the 700... the ones I visited didn't even try to sell me one, let alone give a test ride. I had to sell the salesmen that it was the right bike for me... and then they complain that it's not selling well.
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When I sat on the CTX1300 it felt MUCH lighter than it actually is. My wife had no problem up-righting it but decided she was more comfortable with the CTX700. That 1300 is a great motor.
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That 1300 is a great motor.
True, but with sticker price and mpg probably 35-42, just not enough incentive. I think they missed the T in CTX with the 1300, except for the lighting.

2014 Honda CTX1300 Deluxe | First Ride Review - Ultimate MotorCycling

"The CTX1300 Deluxe is a combination of new tech and old school. You won’t find electronically controlled suspension. In fact, the only suspension adjustment is spring preload for the twin shocks. There are no engine modes (a Honda rep tells me they’re “fluff”), and the traction control has two positions (on/off), ABS is non-adjustable, and the front calipers are not radially mounted, though they are linked to the rear brake pedal. All lighting is LED, and looks great.

Notably missing is a Honda’s vaunted fully automatic Dual Clutch Transmission. According to Honda, a motor needs to be designed from scratch for that option, so the use of the ST1300 architecture eliminated that from the possible feature set. That’s unfortunate, as it would have been perfect for the CTX1300, just as it is on the CTX700 platform."
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NO DCT planned as far as I heard gang

I can appreciate it, but I like the VFR1200F DCT better for the money. And you can pick one up low miles for $10,000-$13,000

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I can appreciate it, but I like the VFR1200F DCT better for the money. And you can pick one up low miles for $10,000-$13,000
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Has anyone fixed the snatchy throttle response that many reviewers noted when testing these VFR1200F bikes?

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VFR1200F EPA MPG is 36mpg. These tests are conducted at 55mph. With a 4.9 gal tank, that equates to roughly 150 miles before walking in the real world and you would have to be extremely miserly to get that.

As to the V4, this engine was totally redesigned in 2009 for the VFR1200. Its much lighter and thinner towards the rear giving it a low center of gravity. The fuel injection system is completely computer controlled and the throttle is fly-by-wire.

I had the opportunity to check out a new CTX1300 while picking up some items at the dealership. My long legs want to rest on the V4 head enclosure and only inches away from the exhausts. That's a deal breaker for sure.

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VFR1200FDCT owners are reporting an economy average between 34-40 MPG. I am sure you can do lows of 30 and highs of 45, 5 MPG margin of error. That is comparable to most hi performance bikes, like ZX14, Ninja 1000/KZ1000.

But VFR1200FDCT has limitations I agree.

Roadrunner magazine latest issue "August 2014" does a good review of CTX1300.

I don't want one, but I am glad Honda continues to push the envelope. The new Valkrie is very cool.

I bet Honda puts DCT on that GL1800 by 2016!

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